Post by: Will on May 12, 2008, 12:13:33 pm
Sega Master System (SMS)- Mix that up with the mobile acronym.
Gameboy (GB) - Mix that up with Gigabyte
Sega Master System maps are mostly already named Master System to avoid an obvious confusion, but what about Gameboy. I think Gameboy should be renamed Gameboy Monochrome (GBM). No one has ever called Gameboy, Gameboy Monochrome but I have adopted that title in the popuw.com forums and it makes perfect sense, to all visitors. Don't you wish Gameboy Monochrome was called that in the Gameboy section? It would be fun to adopt that title, only isn't original. I wonder what Nintendo would think of this.
Post by: Raccoon Sam on May 12, 2008, 01:20:48 pm
Post by: Revned on May 12, 2008, 02:07:25 pm
While there are shared acronyms, I don't think it's much of a problem. It's all about context. If I'm looking down a list of game system names, I'm not going to associate SMS with cell phones or GB with memory sizes.
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on May 12, 2008, 02:42:19 pm
<_< that's not a real request... but if I asked you... would you make Super Mario Sunshine, Sega Master System, or Short Message Service maps (or would you ask first? <_<)
Post by: JonLeung on May 12, 2008, 08:17:21 pm
Have you ever considered a mix up with game port initials for something else? Well try this.
Sega Master System (SMS)- Mix that up with the mobile acronym.
Gameboy (GB) - Mix that up with Gigabyte
Sega Master System maps are mostly already named Master System to avoid an obvious confusion, but what about Gameboy. I think Gameboy should be renamed Gameboy Monochrome (GBM). No one has ever called Gameboy, Gameboy Monochrome but I have adopted that title in the popuw.com forums and it makes perfect sense, to all visitors. Don't you wish Gameboy Monochrome was called that in the Gameboy section? It would be fun to adopt that title, only isn't original. I wonder what Nintendo would think of this.
Sega Master System (SMS)- Mix that up with the mobile acronym.
Gameboy (GB) - Mix that up with Gigabyte
Sega Master System maps are mostly already named Master System to avoid an obvious confusion, but what about Gameboy. I think Gameboy should be renamed Gameboy Monochrome (GBM). No one has ever called Gameboy, Gameboy Monochrome but I have adopted that title in the popuw.com forums and it makes perfect sense, to all visitors. Don't you wish Gameboy Monochrome was called that in the Gameboy section? It would be fun to adopt that title, only isn't original. I wonder what Nintendo would think of this.
Post by: RT 55J on May 12, 2008, 08:38:45 pm
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Post by: Eggz on May 12, 2008, 08:41:05 pm
And for the most part most people recognize those acronyms for the different game systems. If we all of a sudden switched the listing in the atlas without real reason, people would get confused (based on the assumption that most people are idiots), especially those that aren't regulars here but just use the site to get the maps to help them through games.
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Post by: JonLeung on May 12, 2008, 09:48:06 pm
Technically these aren't acronyms...I believe acronyms are supposed to spell something, and "GB" by itself isn't a word.
Then there's "GCN", the official abbreviation for the GameCube. Everyone thought "NGC" meant Neo-Geo Color but that's because they're not familiar with the Neo-Geo line...the Neo-Geo is obviously in colour and the Neo-Geo Pocket Color would be "NGPC".
Then there's the PlayStation, which seemed to be PSX, but then they released a Japan-only PS2 with extra media functions called the PSX. There's the PSOne but I think that should refer only to the redesign, and by extension, some people call the PS2 Slim the PSTwo. I remember someone calling the PS2 the SP2 because she thought the S stood for "Sony" and P the whole "PlayStation". I avoid calling the original the PS1 since the "1" is kind of a backwards term, like naming movies with a "1" (except in obvious cases like Loaded Weapon 1 or whatever that Lethal Weapon paroday was called). Then again we all refer to Transformers as Generation 1 even though it wasn't at the time... :P
I don't see a point to call the Game Boy the Game Boy Monochrome. Does monochrome mean black-and-white or does it include shades of grey? And the original design didn't really look black-and-white, really. The Game Boy Pocket was closer to it, but the original was more like shades of green, wasn't it? :P In context it's easy to tell if you mean the original Game Boy specifically or if you mean the whole Game Boy line of handhelds in general.
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on May 13, 2008, 06:10:16 am
Post by: TerraEsperZ on May 13, 2008, 08:11:11 am
NES
SNES
N64
GB
GBC
GBA
DS
VB
GC
SMS
GG
GEN
32X
SCD (a bit obscure though)
SAT
PSX
PS2
PSP
There. I think that covers all the "relevant" systems :D
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Post by: JonLeung on May 13, 2008, 12:19:21 pm
Kind of hard to do the Xboxes with less than four letters..."XBX" looks weird and "360" is incomplete. I guess those would be "XBOX" and "X360".
I also don't consider those Microsoft consoles relevant, Terra. :P Not as long as the majority of the good games are also on the PC. (Oops, my fanboy is showing... >:P) Sorry that Dead Rising alone isn't enough for me to consider the Xbox 360.
Then there's "Wii"...which doesn't need abbreviating. It sure required plenty of explaining when it was revealed, though. :P
And DS...or sometimes "NDS"...Nintendo stated that DS doesn't officially stand for anything, I think. Kind of like how "DVD" and "SATs" no longer have official long names, after previously standing for a couple things.
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on May 13, 2008, 01:35:33 pm
And by SATs ... what do you mean?
Post by: Will on May 13, 2008, 01:47:51 pm
Post by: marioman on May 13, 2008, 03:00:58 pm
I also don't consider those Microsoft consoles relevant, Terra. :P Not as long as the majority of the good games are also on the PC.
Me neither. I can't figure out why Microsoft and Sony are not just making high-end PCs instead of limiting themselves to a consoles. They could make all-in-one entertainment PCs which could interface with all of your media and play any PC game imaginable.
Post by: Revned on May 13, 2008, 03:03:58 pm
Actually NDS does stand for something. It stands for Nintendo Dual Screen, and the reason is more than obvious. Wii, I am not sure why its called that, but every port has its own respectable code. I never knew the first Gameboy was dot matrix. Isn't that an old type of printer? I just thought the Gameboy Monochrome would match with the black & white and grayscale graphics, because not only does it mean black & white and grayscale but it also sounds very fancy. I just love fancy words to go with certain objects, computers are one of them.
"Monochrome" actually means "one color", in the sense that you use one color on your canvas. It can be black on white, red on blue, or any combination of two colors, but not grayscale.
Post by: marioman on May 13, 2008, 04:05:31 pm
Post by: JonLeung on May 13, 2008, 04:32:09 pm
Actually NDS does stand for something. It stands for Nintendo Dual Screen, and the reason is more than obvious. Wii, I am not sure why its called that, but every port has its own respectable code. I never knew the first Gameboy was dot matrix. Isn't that an old type of printer? I just thought the Gameboy Monochrome would match with the black & white and grayscale graphics, because not only does it mean black & white and grayscale but it also sounds very fancy. I just love fancy words to go with certain objects, computers are one of them.
Not officially, not the last time I checked, even though "Dual Screen" is obviously what is meant by that. As to if there's a difference between what is official and what it's obviously supposed to be, you got me.
"Dot matrix" doesn't have to do with just printing. It is, as it sounds, a matrix of dots, which both old printers and the low-res black-and-white-and-grey GB screen have in common.
You can call it the GB Monochrome if you really want, and most people would know what you meant, but asking everyone to adopt that is another story. You're adding three syllables to something that was originally two.
There's no point to say "EWJ" when "Earthworm Jim" actually has less syllables. Maybe that's not related but I like that one.
And for goodness sakes, Will, Game Boy is TWO WORDS! >:P
Post by: Eggz on May 13, 2008, 09:30:36 pm
Also, there's the speculation that Revolution came off as too harsh of a name and would only really strike a chord with hardcore gamers, while Wii was less aggressive. Then add to that there was all the press, jokes and jabs at the new name that spread like wildfire. Yeah, it has a stupid name, but word got out there, better than it did for any console.
The marketing department just put way too much thought into it as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on May 14, 2008, 03:37:48 am
Post by: Eggz on May 14, 2008, 09:12:37 am
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Post by: Maxim on May 14, 2008, 09:15:27 am
Covers most of what you've mentioned.
Post by: DarkWolf on May 14, 2008, 02:03:49 pm
Post by: Ryan Ferneau on May 17, 2008, 10:21:09 pm
Sega Master System (SMS)- Mix that up with the mobile acronym.
Super Mario Sunshine?JonLeung said:
I avoid "SNES" because I remember hearing that "Super NES" was the preferred, official-as-per-Nintendo term, at least during its lifespan...you'll notice that's why I don't use "SNES" in that section.
Eh, I still think it's weird to abbreviate only part of a name, just as I think it's weird that AIM contains an abbreviation of an abbreviation. (Shouldn't it be AOIM or AOLIM?)
Post by: DarkWolf on May 18, 2008, 07:39:26 am
Post by: Revned on May 18, 2008, 09:42:36 am