Post by: Revned on November 02, 2006, 11:41:08 am
Post by: JonLeung on November 02, 2006, 12:26:11 pm
The remaining non-animated .GIFs have been changed to .PNGs. But what really should save on bandwidth is the clean up of the HTML code.
When I started using Microsoft FrontPage, I was frustrated by the font constantly reverting back to Times New Roman. So I hit "Ctrl+A" to select all of the text and specified the Arial font as well as size. What this unfortunately did was that it put font code for every single cell in every single table, ballooning the size of each HTML by a ton! Imagine...hundreds more "<font face="Arial" size=1>" than necessary!
So I took some time earlier this week to clean up the HTML code (thankfully Microsoft FrontPage made it pretty easy - as it should since it was its fault to begin with). I also found some code anomalies and inconsistencies that would probably muck up how they are viewed in different browsers. But the biggest size reduction came from the extraneous font tags - which saves the Super NES page nearly half a meg. HALF A MB. Imagine...for every thousand or so viewers, I'd save about a whole GB. And the big directory was shaved down by 44 kB, which would add up to be big bandwidth savings considering how many times it's accessed.
Not only should I save on bandwidth and have a speedier site, but I feel much better knowing that the site is "cleaner".
So to answer your question, I decided to let the font all be the default size instead of specifying it for every table on the pages. And the default size is smaller than what I used to use.
Post by: Revned on November 02, 2006, 02:00:13 pm
Post by: marioman on November 02, 2006, 03:42:39 pm
If it's default, then why is it bigger than the text on every other website? Every time I visit the index pages I have to manually tell my browser to make it smaller. You know, you can adjust things without having to do tags for each and every cell. A simple CSS file can set the text style for every page on your site without bloating the files at all. As it is now, it looks pretty bad to me.
Agreed. I think that it is a little large. A text size change would be nice.
Post by: bustin98 on November 02, 2006, 08:53:11 pm
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Post by: Revned on November 02, 2006, 08:55:06 pm
Post by: bustin98 on November 02, 2006, 11:23:08 pm
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Post by: Revned on November 05, 2006, 08:21:34 pm
Post by: JonLeung on November 05, 2006, 08:47:31 pm
The way it looks in IE is fine with me. But I looked at it in another browser (Firefox, I think) and I notice that it doesn't carry the font tag through, so it reverts to Times New Roman instead of remaining in Arial. How stupid.
Unless it's unbearably atrocious, I have other things on my plate I should get to first.
Post by: Revned on November 05, 2006, 09:08:16 pm
Here is the big font:
The little one:
And for comparison, the size I'm used to:
And IE is not the best browser to test things on. Actually, it's probably the worst choice. IE does the stupidest things with code.
Post by: JonLeung on November 06, 2006, 12:46:18 pm
Fine, I'll look into the CSS thing (look, I only learn what things are as I encounter them, as bad as that sounds) but even so, I don't think I'll necessarily change things to how you might like.
For example, the directory with the small text? I've always seen it that way. To change it "back" would be, well, to me it'd be no different and I think it's best that way.
And this is not a knock on your personal opinion, but I'm not sure how the text in the table qualifies as "too big". It's not like it's hard to read or crowding up the table. I thought that larger text would be better since I enlarged the tables earlier.
I'm sure I sometimes come off as stubborn. >_<
Post by: Revned on November 06, 2006, 01:13:24 pm
I don't know CSS either, but I was able to quickly whip one up after a few Google searches for a page I made awhile back.
It's certainly readable, but I don't think there should be such a discrepancy between pages on your site. The system pages are probably 4-6 points bigger than the master index. That, and I've been visiting this site for years and I'm so used to the old look that it jumps right out at me. I'm a minimalist, and stuff like this just seems obnoxious to me.
Post by: bustin98 on November 09, 2006, 08:08:38 am
What a task. MS WORD is not the best web page maker, though I'm sure it was easy.
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Post by: JonLeung on November 09, 2006, 08:55:03 am
I'm concerned about optimizing for the Wii's Opera browser. VGMaps.com, with its rounded-corner front page window-like buttons sure look like it'll fit right in with the Wii's Channel interface.
Post by: bustin98 on November 09, 2006, 11:14:24 am
There are a number of errors and I'm going to go through it line by line. And thats currently 4613 lines of code. But when I'm done it should be down to around 2000.
And I wouldn't be too concerned with how the Wii will display pages. Opera is a standards compliant browser, and I am making this page at least standard compliant (cause it sure ain't at the moment).
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Post by: JonLeung on November 09, 2006, 12:32:52 pm
Let me know when you're done so I can download it off the server and add to it when I update this weekend.
I'm guessing your changes won't mess up how I view it in FrontPage, or that FrontPage won't mandatorily mess it up after I normally add new game links to it?
Post by: bustin98 on November 09, 2006, 01:02:45 pm
What version of FrontPage are you using?
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Post by: bustin98 on November 12, 2006, 11:35:59 pm
Take a look and let us know what you think. The font is still small, but not as small as before. Its a simple change of a number to make it larger now.
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Post by: DarkWolf on November 13, 2006, 02:13:56 pm
Post by: Revned on November 13, 2006, 02:40:17 pm
Post by: JonLeung on November 13, 2006, 05:50:58 pm
To me the size doesn't look much different if at all. The removal of underlined links does look cleaner, and the code is better. I guess I'll take it and hope FrontPage won't butcher it too much when I copy and paste things...and all the new MSX games I have to add to it will be a good test of that.
Thanks, bustin98! I should ask you to optimize the whole site! :) Though I might one day rather have a more "dynamic" site so that might be quite the overhaul.
You know that line in the Ghostbusters theme song where they go "bustin' makes me feel good!" Yeah, I could almost say that now, but it still sounds like something his wife would say (if she refers to him as bustin98 in real life, that is).
Post by: Revned on November 13, 2006, 05:55:00 pm
Post by: bustin98 on November 13, 2006, 08:20:23 pm
Actually, as I was going through that nightmare, I was trying to figure out the best way to setup this information in a database. Jon, if you're interested we can talk more about it. It will streamline the process of adding more information and give users more options.
And no, noone other than the online community calls me bustin98. But thanks for the image of my wife doing something silly like that.
And I never saw the underlines. I have my IE settings to underline links only on hover. Now everyone sees what I see :)
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Post by: bustin98 on November 14, 2006, 10:28:16 am
Jon, I replaced the current page with the new page. If you start adding items, try it with the 'index2.htm' page first. That way if you mess up it won't be a big deal. And if you can't get it to work, let me know.
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Post by: JonLeung on November 16, 2006, 07:42:31 pm
Thanks again, bustin!
Post by: bustin98 on November 17, 2006, 11:28:00 am
(Just kidding. I absolutey expect nothing for my contributions other than the praise you heap.)
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