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Title: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on November 10, 2006, 01:54:48 PM
Crazy Metroid-style platformer: http://www.sitesled.com/members/bogo/lyle.html



I've already have all the rooms mapped out (except the final area). All I need to do now is fix the paralax backgrounds, and do a couple other trival things.



Here's couple maps for you to look at:

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1425/14ahj2.png

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4497/2afp6.png

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Title: RE: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: TerraEsperZ on November 11, 2006, 11:43:00 AM
Looks like an interesting game, reminds me of the good old days of Apogee shareware platformers. Looking foward to seeing the final maps :)



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Title: RE: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on November 13, 2006, 08:10:03 PM
Here's another map to look at:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2548/11kyj9.png





Here's the map I'm using to track my progress. It obviously contains massive spoilers. Blue areas are finished and black areas are unfinished:

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1644/ingamefw7.png





I tried making a map of the final area yesterday. Unfortunately, I somehow lost 24 pixels (1.5 tiles) along the way. Grrr...

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Title: RE: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on November 14, 2006, 08:58:36 PM
w00t! I found the 24 pixels I was missing and finished the room.



http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2423/final2ka2.png



Enjoy!

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Title: RE: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on December 23, 2006, 02:48:49 PM
Here's the finished in-game map:

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8117/ingameiz5.png



And here's a WIP of the 120% more detailed and more Zeric-y map I'm working on:

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7648/superduperwip1qh5.png

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Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: Xitilon on September 07, 2020, 05:41:02 AM
Hey, what's up.

I'm the author of russian translation of this game, and currently I'm thinking of making a port of it, to the current generation consoles. I wonder if those maps are available in any state these days, could help a lot!
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 08, 2020, 12:00:03 PM
Hello Xitilon! I was actually thinking about this project recently.

I made maps of nearly every room, but I never cleaned up the images or assembled them together.

I think I still have all the images on my computer. When I get home from work I will upload them to Imgur.

The source for this game was released in 2015. I was going to use that to finish this project, but haven't done that yet.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 08, 2020, 07:02:46 PM
Here are the goods:

https://imgur.com/a/AJFNZHL (https://imgur.com/a/AJFNZHL)

Apparently I was farther along in this project than I remembered.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: Xitilon on September 09, 2020, 03:28:48 AM
Wow. Thank you very much, this is super helpful! Without this map, I was going to re-map the levels by watching a letsplay video.

If everything goes well, people can expect this game on one (or maybe several) current-gen consoles, and I'll get you a free activation code then!

Also, how'd you write those placeholder digits and numbers? They seem to be tile-ish for some reason, and it looks interesting.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 09, 2020, 10:20:39 AM
IIRC I wrote those digits with the default pencil tool in MS Paint while zoomed out.

Good luck on porting this. I hope Nic DeStefano gives you his blessing if he hasn't already.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: Xitilon on September 09, 2020, 01:05:25 PM
And I thought you were using some fancy auto-tiling program, so that you draw 16x16 line segments just by moving on the 16x16 grid, hah.

Well, we're discussing this with Nic currently.

Also there's a Sega MegaDrive port going on, not by me: https://mikejmoffitt.itch.io/lics-md
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: JonLeung on September 10, 2020, 09:25:10 AM
RT 55J, is this an official submission, and what are the names of the areas?
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 10, 2020, 03:05:05 PM
Give it a couple weeks. I have a few ideas I might try to clean up or re-rip the remaining rooms. If I don't announce any progress by the end of the month, you could upload the big one under the name "Cube Sector (WIP)".

Also, it looks like the exact map I just posted here is in the github repository for the Genesis port under /docs/map_png/ (https://github.com/Mikejmoffitt/LICS/tree/master/docs/map_png). IIRC I gave it to that fellow when I found out he was making it (and noticed he had been referencing maps from this very thread too!).

It's funny how things work out.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 10, 2020, 11:18:12 PM
Looks like we're back in business:

(https://i.imgur.com/yV7mBWG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/8hzh8ac.png)

If my old spreadsheet is accurate, I have 14 more rooms before the main map is done.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: Xitilon on September 12, 2020, 04:27:15 PM
Hi again, everyone!

Me and my friend Sparkster1993 have done this thing which I'd call a "foreground tiles map", which isn't an image file, but an XML map for use with Tiled editor ( https://www.mapeditor.org ).

It can be exported to a variety of formats like CSV, JSON, JS, LUA and even GameMaker Room resource files, in order to convert it to actual game objects in any new game, fan-game or anything. I wonder if this can be hosted at VGMaps, does it make sense?

Here are the files: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vaZFLq-mkG7evIKtkJJJxWJJ5tLk_FCO/view?usp=sharing

It doesn't include enemies, bosses or backgrounds. Only foreground floor, walls, ceilings and platforms. I don't think we'll continue working on it though, as Nic said he's more keen on a MegaDrive port than the one I intended to make for current-gen consoles from scratch. Anyway, good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 14, 2020, 11:11:56 PM
Huge Milestone: All rooms in the main area have been mapped.

https://imgur.com/3SfLhDS (https://imgur.com/3SfLhDS)

TODO:
- Place Items
- Very minor cleanup in a couple rooms
- Verify if the elevator room misalignment is indeed correct (this bothers me a lot)
- Make a map of the final area
- Make it all presentable
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 15, 2020, 11:23:41 PM
Placed all the items, did some minor clean up, verified that the elevator misalignment was my fault, and it's now somewhat presentable.

Before I formally submit this, does anybody have any comments on the presentation? Is the grid (which is supposed to evoke the pause screen) too distracting?

https://i.imgur.com/pLorSyK.png (https://i.imgur.com/pLorSyK.png)

...I just noticed the extra blank screen's worth of transparent space along the bottom and right side of the map. If nothing else, I'll have to fix that before making a proper submission.

Still need to do the final area.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: Xitilon on September 16, 2020, 12:06:34 AM
Great work! Not sure what to add. As always with a Metroid-style full maps, it's kind of insighful to have a look at everything in the game at once. And the grid is just fine, IMHO.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 16, 2020, 07:43:15 PM
I'm considering this done for now, barring any major oversight on my part:

(https://i.imgur.com/UxBc2Sk.png)

Still need to do the final area.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 16, 2020, 07:56:39 PM
I just realized that more time has elapsed between when I made this thread and the present day than had elapsed between the 1993 release of Jetpack for MS-DOS and when I mapped it in 2006.

I feel old.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 16, 2020, 11:44:13 PM
Final area assembled:

(https://i.imgur.com/uZAsKJX.png)

Project is officially done.

I did notice, comparing my old work to my current work, that the background palettes in most rooms are very subtly different. I'm not sure if this is a legitimate version difference between releases or just a quirk of my current or old setup. Either way, I just tried to make sure each room was consistent with itself. Auditing and potentially redoing every single room might be necessary if I want 100% consistency/accuracy, but I don't feel like it's worth the labor that would entail.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: JonLeung on September 17, 2020, 05:45:00 PM
Are you submitting these?  What are the names of these areas?
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: RT 55J on September 17, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
Yeah, consider this a submission.

The big one is just "Cube Sector", and the smaller one I would just call "Cube Sector - Final Area."

I might make a mini-map later, but that's not really a priority for me right now.
Title: Re: Lyle in Cube Sector (PC)
Post by: JonLeung on September 17, 2020, 07:45:56 PM
Thanks, they're up now (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/PC/index.htm#LyleInCubeSector)!

If you wanted to make the palettes consistent, it might not actually be that hard.  Since there are fewer than 256 colours, it should be easy enough to save a palette file from Paint Shop Pro, and just use Notepad or any text editor to tweak and match RGB values that are close, and then apply them.