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General Boards => Map Gab => Topic started by: Maxim on August 11, 2007, 05:06:10 am

Title: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Maxim on August 11, 2007, 05:06:10 am: Going for some kind of record for "most black background in a single map".
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Maxim on August 11, 2007, 07:51:59 am: I added a title card, and did level 2. However, Imageshack isn't working for me now, so I'll try and upload later.
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Maxim on August 12, 2007, 08:04:13 am: Stages 1, 2, 3:
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: DarkWolf on August 12, 2007, 04:33:35 pm: Ha, now do the arcade version. ;)

I would say those are probably the maps with the most null space. Congo Bongo is similar, but I don't think the level is as long, and it is wider.
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: TerraEsperZ on August 12, 2007, 05:35:43 pm: They look great, but the diagonal orientation make them difficult to browse easily unfortunately.

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Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Raccoon Sam on August 13, 2007, 01:03:19 am: Which means they should totally be converted into 'interactive' maps with easy scrolling.

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Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Maxim on August 13, 2007, 04:18:18 am: I'm considering what to do about them. One option would be to put all ten courses in a single image - it'd probably save a lot of file size overall, but it wouldn't solve the problem of scrolling though it easily. (I find middle-clicking the mouse (in a supporting browser) works best, but it's far from ideal.)

I have some ideas about a Java viewer (that would work off a single composite tile image and a compressed binary tilemap, to avoid the filesize and bandwidth overheads) but on the other hand, Java applets are horrible.
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Raccoon Sam on August 13, 2007, 10:49:08 pm: You know, one could whip up an SWF with dragging navigation as well as well as some other controls on a session with Adobe Flash.

Pretty much like https://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/NES/LegendOfZelda-FirstQuest-Hyrule(Interactive).swf but more awesome.

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Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Maxim on August 14, 2007, 02:29:20 am: When you say "one" do you mean "you"? If you could make it parameter-driven and use minimal data (ie. the same as my idea but in Flash) it'd be really useful, because it could then be re-used for other images, and especially because it could always reconstruct the PNG to save to disk yet use much less space/bandwidth online.

I'm not thinking of a PNG version of Zoomify, more like something that works like an HTML multi-image map only with a single source image and efficient tile layout specification to avoid the page-weight-bloat from having multiple image files and overly-verbose source.
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Raccoon Sam on August 14, 2007, 03:58:45 am: Oh, I really didn't mean that I could do it. I can work with flash, but when it comes to loading images via XML, I'm a no go. :<

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Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Maxim on August 29, 2007, 09:17:21 am: Update: finished stages 1-10 and put them all in one PNG file, which is 4MB - a bit better than 10 separate >450KB images. I'm not sure whether it's worth mapping stages 11-20, they're just slightly harder repeats. PNGOut is burning up my CPU now to see if I can't do something a little better with it.
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Maxim on August 29, 2007, 02:07:07 pm: Here's one skewed to be horizontal. Much smaller, but horrible to look at...
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: TerraEsperZ on August 29, 2007, 02:47:20 pm: Creative, but I'll take the harder-to-browse original version thank you :)

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Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Grizzly on August 31, 2007, 07:10:18 am: That is very creative. Did you convert it with a self-written algorithm?

But I think the original version is still more accepted by most people, including me, because it's a bit hard to make out how it looked originally.
Title: RE: Enduro Racer (Master System)
Post by: Maxim on August 31, 2007, 05:02:22 pm: No, just skew by 45 (degrees) in Paint Shop Pro. Its geometric and arithmetic effects are handy sometimes...