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Title: Recent updating
Post by: Will on April 22, 2008, 01:37:35 pm
Hey Jon, you've broken your own record on this site by updating 4 days in a row, which I've never before seen. Sweet! I wonder what it would be like to update 31 days (in other words a month) in a row.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Eggz on April 22, 2008, 01:40:21 pm
I think you mean 5 days in a row, 17-21.

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Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: JonLeung on April 22, 2008, 09:00:15 pm
I'm trying to update with either some maps or a couple thumbnails every day.



It also helped that the games I updated were Mega Man games, which are easy to put up.



If you want, I could put up a map a day by not putting them all up when I get them, and deliberately saving them for later days, but that would be cheating.  :P



I made four new thumbnails today...one was a remake to a better one; all four of them are for Mega Man games!
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Will on April 22, 2008, 11:02:40 pm
Still I wish the thumbnail Gallery existed as I had read about in many previous posts. No matter what I never seem to see any Neo-Geo thumbnails on the front page no matter how many times I refresh the page. Could the Neo-Geo thumbnails have a micro chance of showing like 1/999 or were they never made in the first place? If the latter is correct, could you Jon please make at least one thumbnail of a Neo-Geo game any time soon?
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Maxim on April 23, 2008, 04:36:37 am
The front page random stuff is done in a really nasty way. Can't you get a PHP coder to sort it out for you? Even I could do better than that, I just don't have the time for it :)
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: DarkWolf on April 23, 2008, 02:06:43 pm
I'd be willing to write a server side version of the random thumbnails, just say the word.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: JonLeung on April 23, 2008, 06:02:30 pm
I was thinking of doing a thing with frames to organize the thumbnails better, but it sounds like you guys have better ideas than me.  :P



If you do have time, DarkWolf, that you can make something super-duper simple for a code-hating person like myself to easily modify whenever I add more thumbnails, I would welcome it.



I was also thinking again about somehow restructuring the site...do I wait for the urgings to go away (again) or do I deal with it?  :P  I know that's going to take a lot of work...
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: DarkWolf on April 23, 2008, 07:17:37 pm
I sent you an e-mail with the code.  I based it on a simple text-file database, so you can updated it with notepad or whatever.



It would be cool to see the site move to a more dynamic platform with web-based controls and the like.  But yeah, lots of work, especially if you plan to do it yourself!
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: JonLeung on April 23, 2008, 07:53:34 pm
'Kay, I'll check it out, thanks, DarkWolf!



And for Will Mallia...today's two new thumbnails are Neo-Geo ones.



Don't worry, I keep a list of the games I have yet to make thumbnails for.



If anyone's wondering why no Japanese games have shown up yet, I'm wondering how I should title them.  Since I really don't think I want to do the original kanji when spelling out their names, obviously I'm left with the anglicized-spelled title, or the commonly accepted translation.  Do I stick a (J) at the end or not?



There's "Rockman & Forte" for the Super Famicom.  Do I put it as "Rockman & Forte" or "Mega Man & Bass", since that's the literal translation and the name of the worldwide-released GBA version?  However, this is the Super Famicom release we're talking about.



Is it "Castlevania: Rondo Of Blood" or "Dracula X: Rondo Of Blood"?  I suppose I should check what the newer PSP version is called.  Or do I go with "Akumajo Dracula X: Chi no Rondo"?



Maybe it's easier than I think it is, but I just need to make a choice I can stick with.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: JonLeung on April 23, 2008, 08:05:53 pm
Hmm...DarkWolf, I put the .php file up, but then it seems to not want to load up parts of the main page...



Obviously I'm doing something wrong.



Yeah, laugh it up, everyone knows I'm a n00b at this stuff.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: DarkWolf on April 24, 2008, 02:55:51 pm
Could you upload it renamed as something else like index2.php?  I tried using the index.php I gave you on my local web server and other than the images missing, it loads everything correctly.  Perhaps it is something on your end?  I did forgot to get rid of the boarder around the images though, so I will need to send you an updated file for that.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Eggz on April 24, 2008, 08:09:18 pm
I say, if it had a North American release, or even part of a series that's available outside of Japan, go with the commonly accepted English title, and possibly add the (J) if it was a Japanese-only release overall.



Unless they are more well known as they anglicized titles, such as Seiken Densetsu 3, keep it as such. Despite the fact that it's part of the Secret of Mana series, most fans know it by its Japanese name.



And then when it comes to Japanese-only games, stick with the anglicized names, with the (J) at the end. The original kanji is just way to much work for it.



That's just my opinion. If anyone has any better ideas, go right ahead.

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Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Maxim on April 25, 2008, 03:14:03 am
I say, put Japanese text with a couple of English versions as subtitles - I try for Romaji + translation + anglicised name where possible. Japanese text is cool and foreign and you can pretend you can read it.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: DarkWolf on April 25, 2008, 04:45:45 am
When I did Momoko 120%, I used the Kana for "Momoko" in the maps' title cards.  But Kana is easy enough to do.  If it had any Kanji I wouldn't have bothered though.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Maxim on April 25, 2008, 10:10:19 am
It can be tricky to render kanji in a pixel-font-looking way. However, almost every kanji font has bitmaps at low sizes anyway, which is close enough even if not stylistically the same - that's how I achieved the (unreadable) kanji here:



User posted image



Kana is indeed easier, you just need to grab an 8x8 font from an appropriate game.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: JonLeung on May 14, 2008, 07:05:20 pm
Ah, that's where this topic went.



Sorry for not saying much about that .php file since the last time I tried.



I haven't ever had a chance to properly learn HTML.  PHP seems like a whole 'nother world.  Maybe I'm just ignorant.



What program(s) would you recommend for PHPing?  I've gotten spoiled with FrontPage for "coding" HTML.  I think if I could be more familiar with PHP I'd be much less hesitant to use it.  I don't care that it's as natural as breathing for some of you, this might as well be Greek rocket science for me!



I've been busy the last little while.  Kinda ruined the "new daily thumbnails" streak.  Finally decided on a car.  I'll be getting a red 2008 Mazda3 Sport (sedan), fairly loaded.  My first car.  Pathetic to finally have it now, but hey.  I'll be picking that up Thursday next week once the rest of this paperwork crap is finished.  I suppose I have to look into insurance tonight.  *sigh*
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Revned on May 14, 2008, 08:08:01 pm
*cough* The Greeks didn't have rockets *cough*



For plain old PHP, I think you can just type it in Notepad and upload it to your site. For MySQL, though, you need database software on both your web server and your computer.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Maxim on May 15, 2008, 02:46:41 am
PHP is just a scripting language so all you need is a text editor. Preferably one with syntax highlighting; I tend to use ConTEXT. That, and a web browser pointing to a tutorial and/or the PHP website.



You'll probably want to get a local webserver set up for testing. I use WampServer, which is Apache, PHP and MySQL for Windows. Then, with a little configuring, you can have a test version of the site on a local disk that you can view in a web browser, rather than having to upload to test changes. This is assuming the site's running on similar software, of course.



Synchronising your local disk copy with the site is another issue. I use rsync but it's quite hard to set up.



A word of warning: PHP code is easy to write, but hard to write well. 99% of what you find online, posted as "tutorials" or "tips", is in fact rubbish.



If you do ever decide to rewrite the site from static HTML to be DB-driven, a framework like Ruby on Rails (probably not supported by your host) or CakePHP (PHP clone) is probably a god start. But that's probably at least a few years off.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: DarkWolf on May 15, 2008, 03:25:26 pm
When you are starting out, it's good practice to type out the example code instead of using copy/paste when using tutorials. Especially if you are learning a language like PHP which uses semicolons and curly braces.  You have to get used to typing things that way.



Also make sure you really understand what is going on when you do tutorials or look at sample code.  If the tutorial uses a function without explaining what it is, you need to look it up.  http://php.net/function_name is the easiest way to quickly lookup functions (or objects) for PHP.



Taking small steps is the best way to go.  If you learn too much too quickly you'll just end up forgetting it.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: JonLeung on May 18, 2008, 06:11:48 pm
Maybe for now I'll just keep using the HTML index.



I would like the random map thumbnails thing to be cleaner though.  DarkWolf, maybe what I need is just a PHP thing for those, just a single square, though, which I can make iframes for as many as I need.  That would be easier, I think, than a whole index.php, at least while my PHP knowledge is still non-existent.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: Maxim on May 19, 2008, 05:41:21 am
Iframes are nasty. Just rename index.html to index.php and it ough to still work. Then it's a matter of inserting <?php ?> around the code to insert the thumbnails, and presto: embedded dynamic content without iframes.
Title: RE: Recent updating
Post by: DarkWolf on May 19, 2008, 02:26:08 pm
Yeah that's essentially what I did.  AJAX is an option, instead of an IFRAME, to keep the server side code out of the HTML page.  But a bit tedious for just that one thing.



If you could still upload a version of the file named index2.php, I would like to take a look at why it isn't loading properly.