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Title: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: dbarrier54 on January 29, 2009, 04:09:34 PM
I Just wanted Everyone to know that Chocolate Island 2 of Super Mario World is incorrect



I will e-mail a Correct copy of the Map



When I Can afford the Money to get an Image scanner

Since I got the correct copy in the

Super Nintendo SMW/Mario Mania Player's Guide



Then replace the Old Chocolate Island 2 Map of the

Super Mario World section with the Correct Copy

Iam going to send to Jonathan Leung

This Spring when i get an image scanner



Thank you

Jon  dbarrier54
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on January 29, 2009, 05:09:09 PM
I don't accept scans.



I already mentioned the error to Stefan, like twice already.



If he wants to get around to it, he will.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on January 30, 2009, 11:15:32 AM
Wow.... long time no see, dbarrier54. I remember when you used to do nothing but ORDER/DEMAND maps to be done by a certain time. Also, what's the mistake in the map?
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on January 30, 2009, 11:38:38 AM
If that's the same stage of Super Mario World that I'm thinking of, it's the one where each area is different depending on certain conditions when you finish the previous area, conditions such as remaining time, coins collected, Yoshi (Dragon?) Coins colected, stuff like that.  At least one area is missing.



Admittedly I misread the original post when I thought it was a request for money for a scanner.  :P



I also have the Mario Mania (Super Mario World) Official Nintendo Player's Guide, and a scanner (slightly fritzy, but it works often enough), but like I said, this site doesn't deal with scans.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: dbarrier54 on January 30, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
The Ultimate Koopa Said:
Wow.... long time no see, dbarrier54. I remember when you used to do nothing but ORDER/DEMAND maps to be done by a certain time. Also, what's the mistake in the map?

Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on January 30, 2009, 02:11:29 PM
My guess is that Stefan used an editor to capture all the maps, and perhaps the editor he was using couldn't view all of them in that stage since it has those special conditions.



It would explain how he got through mapping the game so quickly but it takes more effort to get all the complete areas for just this one stage.



If asking Stefan again doesn't work, bug Peardian.  :P  Peardian sure loves those Mario games.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Peardian on January 30, 2009, 04:32:57 PM
Hey hey, I have projects of my own to do. :P



See my signature? Yeah.

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Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: dbarrier54 on January 30, 2009, 04:54:36 PM
Peardian Said:
Hey hey, I have projects of my own to do. :P



See my signature? Yeah.

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The Chocolate Island 2 Map is Incorrect

The Mistake is Chocolate Island 2 has 9 Areas Not 6

example:

_______________________________

Mistake



Area 1

Area 2

Area 3A 3B 3C

Area 4



Should Be Changed to



Area 1



Area 2A 0-8 Coins area 1

Area 2B 9-20 Coins area 1

Area 2C 21 or more than 21 in area 1



Area 3A Complete Area 2 250-300 Timer

Area 3B Complete Area 2 235-249 Timer

Area 3C Complete Area 2 1-234 Timer



Area 4A Complete Area 3 0-3 Dragon Coins

Area 4B Complete Area 3 4 Dragon Coins
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Piranhaplant on January 30, 2009, 05:13:28 PM
I'm guessing he used Lunar Magic to capture these levels.  Notice how areas that can't be seen through normal play are shown in the maps, I have used Lunar Magic before, and those maps look exactly like you see them in the editor.  Chocolate Island 2 is one of the only things that Lunar Magic couldn't edit, so he must have had to make that map manually.

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Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on February 01, 2009, 09:45:44 AM
So you get a different Area 2 depending on how many coins you got in Area 1, a different Area 3 depending on the timer, and a different area 4 depending on the number of Dragon Coins? Wow... and I bet there's no way of using Lunar Magic to see all 9 different rooms, which I'm guessing Stefan used?
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: dbarrier54 on February 18, 2009, 01:17:20 PM
Stefan are you working on redoing Chocolate island 2

Like this



 Area 1

 Area 2A 2B 2C

 Area 3A 3B 3C

 Area 4A 4B
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: dbarrier54 on February 26, 2009, 05:23:34 PM
The Chocolate island 2 Area 2C Map is Incorrect

Please Correct the following errors before Continuing



1 Error



        Area 1  Correct

        Area 2A Correct  

        Area 2B Correct  

Error   Area 3C Change that to area 2C on scanner

        Area 3A Correct

        Area 3B Correct

        Area 3C Correct

        Area 4A Correct

        Area 4B Correct  

         

Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Tropicon on February 26, 2009, 09:37:29 PM
LOL
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Maxim on February 27, 2009, 02:40:24 AM
It's like deja vu all over again.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on February 27, 2009, 09:04:38 AM
God damn it, dbarrier. Just say what needs to be fixed. Now I'm going to pretend that the entire game of Donkey Kong Land has been mapped, but let's say I dunno Sky High Caper was incorrect, in that it missed something.


A Normal person would say: Sky High Caper is missing something.





But you say:


The Sky High Caper map is Incorrect.


Correct the following error(s) before continuing or I'll get you locked up for incorrect mapping. Listen to me for I must be obeyed.


Jungle Jaunt Correct


Freezing Fun Correct


Simian Swing Correct


Deck Trek Correct


Rope Ravine Correct


Tyre Trail Correct


Riggin' Rumble Correct


Congo Carnage Correct


Arctic Barrel Arsenal


Tricky Temple Correct


Kremlantis Correct


Reef Rampage Correct


Snake Charmer's Challenge Correct


Chomp's Coliseum Correct


Nautilus Chase Correct


Swirlwind Storm Correct


Pot Hole Panic Correct


Mountain Mayhem Correct


Track Attack Correct


Spiky Tyre Trail Correct


Error Sky High Caper is missing something


Landslide Leap Correct


Collapsing Clouds


Balloon Barrage Correct


Kong Krazy Correct


Construction Site Fight Correct


Fast Barrel Blast Correct


Skyscraper Caper Correct


Button Barrel Blast Correct


Oil Drum Slun Correct





Yes, it's annoying, isn't it? Well, maybe not for you.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on February 27, 2009, 05:38:48 PM
Posts #012 and #013 in this topic were previously new topics, but I merged all these topics together into this existing thread.



It's not necessary to make new topics about the same thing.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Mahrla on February 27, 2009, 06:48:05 PM
Well, just a few things before I continue:

I'm probably one of the few guys that never really played SMW in my childhood (only the first levels at a friend). So one day I thought it would be nice to play through the game on emulator and try to map it. I started to map the first 2 levels manually and then found this lunar magic editor. It was a lot easier with lunar, because all I had to do was to save the level & "bonus level" files as bmp and align them correctly (I wanted to play through the game anyway, so I just checked which pipe lead to which bonus room and so on).

But then there were a few areas that lunar magic couldn't render. Especially in this level. And because I never played the game, I just went through the level and mapped the missing areas (at this point I did not know that I was missing more areas of this level).

Then over the years I got like 100 mails (50 from debbie^^) in which I was asked to redo the map. I always wanted to do so, but you know, sometimes you are just too busy...



I finally read a FAQ to find the missing areas. But now there are still errors in the map?



I will redo the map again, but I need specific information:



Area 1 (there is only one first Area)

- when you do not collect enough coins, you reach Area 2A (left side on my map)

- when you collect enough coins, you reach Area 2B (right side on my map)



And then, Area 2B leads to Area 3B (the one with the mushroom-bubbles on right side of my map).

Is there a way to reach a different Area 3X from Area 2B?

Sorry, if I still made a mistake. But now I want to have it correct (and not wait another 3 years to redo it^^).
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on February 28, 2009, 08:17:24 AM
"Dragon Coins" should be capitalized, and some words ("Dragon" and "(middle)", for example) seem to have weird pixel nicks and lines that probably shouldn't be there.



>_>



Hey, I might as well point it out before dbarrier54 does...
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Mahrla on February 28, 2009, 03:16:15 PM
Ok, just tell me what I can improve.

I also thought about aligning stuff like this:



------ | Area 2a | Area 3a | -------

Area 1 | Area 2b | Area 3b | Area 4a

------ | Area 2c | Area 3c | Area 4b



Not sure, if that is better.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on February 28, 2009, 08:35:43 PM
Yeah, that probably would look better, and make it easy/-ier to 'understand' the map.



inb4dbarrier54
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: dbarrier54 on March 01, 2009, 04:25:01 PM
Stefan,

I Just wanted to know that

Area 2C is Wrong



Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Tropicon on March 01, 2009, 04:30:09 PM
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on March 01, 2009, 05:36:43 PM
OK, that's it. For GOD'S sake, dbarrier54, POST IN THE SAME THEAD! STOP MAKING NEW ONES. Also, it's wrong is it? Well how about saying how it should be?
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: marioman on March 01, 2009, 07:05:04 PM
Here we go again...
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Maxim on March 02, 2009, 02:22:10 AM
dbarrier54,

We Just wanted to know,

this thread is WRONG.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: DarkWolf on March 02, 2009, 06:25:57 PM
Please correct before continuing!
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on March 03, 2009, 07:09:10 AM
This is really unnecessary.



1) This is the fourth topic you made about this (post #022).  Plus, you hijacked another thread about Super Mario World, so it's kind of like the fifth time.  That's why I merged these topics with the original, though I could've just as easily deleted them (if I didn't happen to really like the "merge topics" ability).



2) There was no need to email me to tell Stefan Mahrla to fix it.  He's well aware of the situation, and he mentioned that you emailed him already, and I don't see why it'd be my responsibility to "tell him" to fix it.  I do want to see it fixed too, but that goes into my next point...



3) ...he already said he would fix it again (after already attempting to fix it for you twice already), so I don't see why you should pester someone who's already willing to fulfill your request.  He has acknowledged your preference to have it as soon as possible, as well.



4) And that wasn't long ago, it's not like it was over a month ago.  There might be a certain length of time when it would be fine to give someone a poke to see if they're still working on something, but surely you can give it a rest for a little longer?  Relax, it'll get done, he doesn't need constant reminders, especially not on the forums where you might be annoying others.



5) If you need this map corrected so badly, perhaps you should be more clear to Stefan exactly what needs to be remedied.  Just saying something's wrong doesn't help.



6) I find it hard to believe that you would NEED one single stage mapped correctly, and SO BADLY, especially when you already have the Mario Mania Player's Guide.  If the constant pestering is a joke, it's no longer funny.



I believe I banned you once before, don't make another topic about this or I just might do it again.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on March 03, 2009, 09:06:38 AM
You see where you put "I don't see why you should pester someone who's already willing to fulfill your request"? I think you sould replace "request" with "demands" <_<
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: TerraEsperZ on March 03, 2009, 10:53:37 AM
This kind of behavior is why I've always thought a "Request" board was a bad idea; it attracts the kind of obsessed people who keep demanding things be done just because they want it.



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Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Mahrla on March 17, 2009, 08:16:05 PM
Sorry for taking so long to re-redo (^^) the map, but my computer crashed two weeks ago.

So here is the map that can be "read" from left to right. It can also be uploaded to the main page:



http://www.superplayers.de/stefanmahrla/misc/pics/SuperMarioWorld-World6-ChocolateIsland2.png
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: The Ultimate Koopa on March 18, 2009, 09:18:50 AM
OK, your majesty (dbarrier54). Is this to your royal liking, sir trollalot?
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on March 18, 2009, 01:38:25 PM
Okay, it's now up; hope that settles things.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on March 20, 2009, 06:11:12 AM
Well, we haven't heard from dbarrier, so I guess I'll be the one to say thanks, Stefan!  :D  I should have said that earlier.



dbarrier should have been the first to say thanks - if she had all that time and energy to beg for a correct map and to email the both of us multiple times about it, it seems rather disappointing that she can't thank you even once on the forums...(unless perhaps she emailed or PMed you)?



Though maybe she's busy going through this revision pixel-by-pixel to make sure it's correct...
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Revned on March 20, 2009, 01:06:26 PM
She?
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on March 20, 2009, 03:27:33 PM
I would assume so.



Someone called "her" "Debbie" here on the forums, and then when "she" emailed me a few times about this, the name on the email was indeed "Debbie Barrier".



I'm going on the assumption that Debbie is a female name and that the person using that email address has the same name as that email would say it is.



Of course, I have been wrong before.  I thought Peardian was a girl until I honoured "her" for the Maps Of The Month for Super Mario RPG: Legend Of The Seven Stars, not realizing that he was using his mom's email account the whole time.



I sometimes think Peardian's a girl in error (as in, while checking my email, "Oh, she's got more Mario maps coming in today", etc.).  Luckily I often catch myself before I type up anything here about her.  I mean him.



Of course the whole Debbie Barrier thing might be a joke, I don't know.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Peardian on March 20, 2009, 03:55:23 PM
It's okay. I get that a lot. :P



Well, not a lot, but more frequently than you'd expect. :P

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Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: DarkWolf on March 20, 2009, 05:39:57 PM
Everyone on the internet is male until proven otherwise. ;)
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: RT 55J on March 21, 2009, 03:20:07 PM
Wait. Peardian is male? I could've sworn the opposite was true. :P

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Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Peardian on March 21, 2009, 05:03:46 PM
See what I mean? :P



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Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: mchern on May 13, 2009, 05:50:38 PM
when is chocolate island 2 going to be fixed?
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: Mahrla on May 13, 2009, 07:06:54 PM
The fixed (and hopefully correct) choco island 2 map is uploaded:

https://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/SuperMarioWorld-ChocolateIsland-ChocolateIsland2.png



However, Jonathan made no news about it, is that why you are asking? Sometimes he posts news like "Game (Revised)", when there is a revised map. I can ask him if he will do such a news, because there were like 30+ mails I got about this one map. So maybe other people also only check the news and not the forum and don't know that there is an improved map.
Title: RE: Super Mario World Chocolate Island 2 Incorrect
Post by: JonLeung on May 13, 2009, 08:15:20 PM
Ever since Revned redid his Mega Man III maps last year, others have revised their maps.



I only think a revision is worth mentioning on the front page as "revised" if it's major enough to be considered an overhaul, and most of the time it's a complete replacement usually by the same person.  I don't think it's necessary to mention on the front page if someone makes a minor correction to a map - otherwise I'd be doing that every other week.



If I didn't mention it on the front page, I must have mentioned the Chocolate Island 2 revision elsewhere, since it was apparently so controversial.  I probably did so in the Super NES Game Atlas topic; my apologies for not doing it here.