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Map Requests / Re: Request Listings
« on: June 05, 2025, 11:58:08 pm »
AI don't get the job done, bub.
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If Tropicon wants to try to collect commissions, then so be it. But this thread (plus the other) went from zero to "has LTIan paid up yet?" in no time at all. Begging for money is as bad, or worse, than begging for maps.
For what it's worth, I think people pretty much ignore stickied threads before posting, as a rule. I'd lean towards closing the board, but I'd also be completely fine with just leaving things as they are. Just don't push things the other direction
LTIan, I don't know what price Tropicon quoted you for the Road Runner: Death Valley Rally maps - assuming you had discussed it at any length - but I'm not sure that it warrants such a negative response.
Now I'm not necessarily vouching for Tropicon here as I don't even know what his price is for that. And not knowing how difficult the game is to map I can't comment on that specifically, but I would imagine it's probably not simply an otherwise-impossibility that can only be overcome by being paid for.
Revned, you're right, maps can be and have been made for the fun of it. Some maps may never get mapped though, and if commissions adds the motivation for a mapper to figure out how, and if the requestor is willing to pay, then I don't think that's so wrong.
Because remember, it's commission, not ransom. If someone can find a way to map it and does so, and submits it with no expectation of money - as every map so far has been, as far as I know, then great!
If Tropicon is extra-motivated by money, and a requester is willing to pay that amount, I see no problem with that. Artists do that all the time. And we can debate whether or not stitching screenshots together is the same as paying for the individual and unique talents of a traditional artist, but the point is that no one can really stop any transaction between two people that are happy with that arrangement.
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However, we still have the (apparent) problem of people making requests - or maybe more accurately, making requests with too much expectation, or too little understanding/appreciation of the work involved. What now? Any suggestions?
I'm still reluctant to close it down totally. It doesn't feel like it's enough of a spammish annoyance, it's not like requests show up every day.
How about this...would a stickied topic telling people of common-sense guidelines and not-so-common-sense explanations of the challenges involved help at all, do you think? Like a "Things to consider before you request..." sort of topic? Or is that weaksauce? Would be better than not having anything at all, though, right?