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Offline Cleeem

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Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« on: August 23, 2023, 04:30:09 pm »
Hello !  ;)
I had the good surprise to discover maps for Alisia Dragoon.
Thank very much for that, G.E.R.

I think it could be very interesting to add all the secret areas and bonuses.
For example, there are lot of them in the first temple. For now, the area remains blank on the map.

Thank you again for publishing theses maps !  :)


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I decided to make mini-maps for all the game using G.E.R.'s maps! :-)
(except for the yellow boxes, which are additions of my own to indicate missing secret passages)

It is very simple :
  • light pink circle is a bonus already on the maps
  • yellow circle is a bonus that could be added on the maps
You have to walk right next to the hidden bonuses for them to appear.

Stage 1 Temple




Stage 2 Swamp


Stage 3 Zeppelin


Stage 4 Mountain


Stage 5 Caves



Stage 6 Spaceship



Stage 7 Palace


Rank List
It is displayed at the end of the game.  The columns show what you've used most often (Alisia Thunder = left column or companion power = right column).

source : https://wepon.at-ninja.jp/alisia.html


While playing to check the secrets, the game gave me the rank « Thunder Unicorn » Thunder Pawa ! That was nice ! ;)


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While I was doing the tests, I used two codes of invicibility for Alisia (the first one) and her companions (the second one), if anyone is interested :
0013FA:4E75 and 0010CA:6002
 ;)
« Last Edit: August 28, 2023, 03:55:55 am by Cleeem »

Offline G.E.R.

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Re: Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2023, 06:33:29 am »
It's very awesome that you're modify the maps and extend it.
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/Y_6Mc978jUeTMw - you can use my Photoshop files with separated layers or I can modify the maps later.

Offline Cleeem

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Re: Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2023, 06:38:26 pm »
Hello G.E.R.,
thank you for your kind message.

Thanks to you, I was able to discover one or two secrets I did not know in the game !  :)

I would happily give you the complementary pieces of map I made (framed in yellow), but I'm not on my favorite computer and I've used different tools (is this why I'm getting a color that's a little different from that of your maps?).
Thank you for your confidence with psd files but I will not have the tools to use them correctly right now.
Everything I've posted here has been done with paint. ^^

All bonuses have been precisely placed, and I've added pointers to hidden areas.
I hope it will help you to update the maps as you wish.
I'm glad I could give you this info.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2023, 06:58:52 pm by Cleeem »

Offline G.E.R.

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Re: Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2023, 04:19:49 am »
I will place the items and hidden areas on the maps and resend them.

Offline Cleeem

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Re: Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2023, 01:39:52 pm »
Thank you very much !  :)
I added a section : rank list with another nice picture. ^^

and another bonus...

Alisia and her four companions
(top to bottom and left to right) : Boomerang Lizard, Thunder Raven, Ball O' Fire and Dragon Frye
« Last Edit: August 26, 2023, 04:39:58 pm by Cleeem »

Offline G.E.R.

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Re: Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2023, 05:23:15 am »
One problem with levels exploring on Genesis is a block-structure of them.
Usually I use CheatEngint for finding X/Y coordinates and setting up DEL/HM/END/PD to changing player (character) coordinates.
So ← ↑ → ↓ uses for normal character moving and DEL/HM/END/PD uses for game screen moving.
It allowed to explore many game maps on GBA/DS/NDS/PC levels when I've been ripped them.


Alisia Dragoon is block-map game and hasn't unified game areas and this system doesn't working on most Genesis games. For this reason I foundn't some hidden areas.

Offline TerraEsperZ

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Re: Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2023, 08:36:26 pm »
Cool method! I managed to do something like this using Lua scripting for a few GBA games (moving camera coordinates using keyboard keys) and it made things so much easier!

I once used CheatEngine to do something similar for Makai Toushi SaGa on the Oswan Wonderswan emulator but I obviously wasn't going about it the right way. I never understood how to use CheatEngine with pointers, which meant that everytime I wanted to take screenshots, I'd have to track down the camera coordinates. Second, the altered values would only work after a room transition. It made mapping a lot more complicated and I eventually put the project on pause.

But going back to your post, what do you mean exactly by "block structure" and it preventing you from exploring?
Current project:
Mega Man: Powered Up (PSP)

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Re: Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2023, 03:47:37 am »

Offline Cleeem

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Re: Alisia Dragoon maps and secrets
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2023, 06:34:56 am »
Interestingly, you both use powerful tools.

Everything is perfect for bonuses and secret rooms.

Just one more thing. The entrance to level 3 needs to be moved.


And for 7a, you could add horizontal travel towards the castle if you like
« Last Edit: August 28, 2023, 08:51:51 am by Cleeem »