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Title: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on August 24, 2019, 01:11:10 pm
The Sega Genesis Mini comes out in less than a month, loaded with 40 classic Genesis games.  As with the NES Classic Edition (https://www.vgmaps.com/forums/index.php?topic=2194.0) and the Super NES Classic Edition (https://www.vgmaps.com/forums/index.php?topic=2254.0), it would be cool to see how far along we've already come to mapping this and how many more could still be mapped.

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MAPS FOR THE 40 GAMES OF THE SEGA GENESIS MINI
O Alex Kidd In The Enchanted Castle (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#AlexKiddInTheEnchantedCastle)
X Alisia Dragoon (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#AlisiaDragoon)
O Altered Beast (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#AlteredBeast)
O Beyond Oasis (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#BeyondOasis)
O Castle Of Illusion: Starring Mickey Mouse (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#CastleOfIllusionStarringMickeyMouse)
O Castlevania: Bloodlines (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#CastlevaniaBloodlines)
O Columns (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#Columns)
O Comix Zone (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#ComixZone)
O Contra: Hard Corps (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#ContraHardCorps)
O Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#DrRobotniksMeanBeanMachine)
X Dynamite Headdy (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#DynamiteHeaddy)
O Earthworm Jim (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EarthwormJim)
O Ecco The Dolphin (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EccoTheDolphin)
X Eternal Champions (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EternalChampions)
- Ghouls 'N Ghosts (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#GhoulsNGhosts)
O Golden Axe (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#GoldenAxe)
X Gunstar Heroes (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#GunstarHeroes)
O Kid Chameleon (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#KidChameleon)
O Landstalker: The Treasures Of King Nole (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#LandstalkerTreasuresOfKingNole)
O Light Crusader (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#LightCrusader)
O Mega Man: The Wily Wars (E) (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#MegaManWilyWars)
X Monster World IV (J) (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#MonsterWorldIV)
- Phantasy Star (IV): The End Of The Millennium (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#PhantasyStarIVEndOfTheMillennium)
X Road Rash II (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#RoadRashII)
O Shining Force: The Legacy Of Great Intention (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#ShiningForceLegacyOfGreatIntention)
X Shinobi III: Return Of The Ninja Master (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#ShinobiIIIReturnOfTheNinjaMaster)
O Sonic The Hedgehog (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#SonicTheHedgehog)
O Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#SonicTheHedgehog2)
O Sonic The Hedgehog Spinball (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#SonicTheHedgehogSpinball)
X Space Harrier II (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#SpaceHarrierII)
X Street Fighter II': Special Champion Edition (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#StreetFighterIISpecialChampionEdition)
- Streets Of Rage 2 (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#StreetsOfRage2)
X Strider (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#Strider)
X Super Fantasy Zone (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#SuperFantasyZone)
X Thunder Force III (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#ThunderForceIII)
- ToeJam & Earl (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#ToeJamEarl)
O Vectorman (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#Vectorman)
X Virtua Fighter 2 (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#VirtuaFighter2)
O Wonder Boy In Monster World (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#WonderBoyInMonsterWorld)
X World Of Illusion: Starring Mickey Mouse And Donald Duck (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#WorldOfIllusionStarringMickeyMouseAndDonaldDuck)

The Sega Genesis Mini also comes with two more games, Darius and Tetris.  I'm not sure what the story is here (I'm sure I will edit this when I do know) so at the moment I don't know if they can be mapped, but if so, they're listed here too.

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MAPS FOR THE BONUS GAMES OF THE SEGA GENESIS MINI
X Darius (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#Darius)
X Tetris (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#Tetris)
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on August 29, 2019, 08:43:14 pm
Thanks to G.E.R. for letting me know that Alex Kidd In The Enchanted Castle wasn't actually completed, as it was missing the aerial "To The Sky" stage, and then submitting it so that the first game alphabetically is now actually complete!  To think I was wrong in thinking that was complete for 13 years when it actually wasn't, sheesh...
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: G.E.R. on August 30, 2019, 12:46:25 am
I think that DarkWolf don't ripped this level, because it non-platformed level without objects. It includes only three small platform and enemies with a bombs or 200 JPY.

Another thing surprises me. It seems that SEGA abandoned Sonic 3 Knuckles, because this game don't rerelised in 201x years (along STH-1, STH-2, STH-CD, SA1 and SA2).
May be the reason is remakes of this levels is placed in other games? Only two levels (Carvaval Night and Launght Base) hasn't various remakes in a last games.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: TerraEsperZ on September 03, 2019, 07:17:10 pm
Concerning Sonic the Hedgehog 3, there (possibly/most likely) seems to be a long unresolved issue concerning music rights, specifically because of the involvement of Michael Jackson (there are many recent YouTube videos on the subject).

Given how complicated and expensive music rights settlements can be as well as Michael's involvement which is still being denied officially, it is most likely the reason why Sonic 3 & Knuckles hasn't been ported to any modern systems, only emulated. It also explains why the Sonic & Knuckles Collection for PC released in 1997 featured different music for several levels that included samples most likely taken from Jackson (Carnival Night, Launch Base) or where the music is basically an existing unreleased track (Hard Times by The Jetzons for Ice Cap).
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on September 04, 2019, 11:28:41 am
Congratulations on the 20000th post, TerraEsperZ!  At least, that's what I assume "msg20000" refers to...

Anyway, The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time had a chant in the Fire Temple removed and EarthBound also had some music that was replaced in later versions.  So to Nintendo it was apparently worth replacing the offending/infringing bits.

So while Sega could have included Sonic The Hedgehog 3 with some kind of similar workaround, maybe they just don't think it's worth the trouble to replace the music, or fundamentally don't want to change anything about a classic game.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on October 19, 2019, 01:45:55 pm
George s (or his brother, I guess) submitted the screens for Columns (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#Columns)!
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: GHS on October 20, 2019, 12:52:36 pm
How can games like Road Rash and Space Harrier be mapped?
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: G.E.R. on January 12, 2020, 04:35:41 am
I find the Earthworm Jim maps for SNES (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/index.htm#EarthwormJim) in the atlas. If I remember it right, the SNES/Genesis maps is similary.
But I see that there are one map for EJ2 is missing. It's a not-platformed level between Villi People and Puppy Love Act 2. I just wanted to play this game a long time and I think that I will rip this level on next week.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on January 28, 2020, 07:56:01 am
Thanks, G.E.R., for submitted full maps of the Genesis versions of Earthworm Jim (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EarthwormJim) and its sequel (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EarthwormJim2), which I put up last night.  Surprised they haven't been mapped until now, and the first one checks another one off this list.

I guess I didn't mention yet: my brother got me a Sega Genesis Mini this past Christmas - though the only game I made time to play fully so far is Mega Man: The Wily Wars.  It was fun but I didn't think the three new Robot Masters were super great - but I guess they still have a legacy, because I more recently bought Sonic & Mega Man: Worlds Collide (as well as Worlds Unite, its sequel), a comic series involving Mega Man and Sonic's worlds, obviously, and (though I'm sure they showed up in the Mega Man comics earlier,) I like that the three new Robot Masters are collectively referred to as the "Genesis Unit".
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: GHS on February 09, 2020, 02:05:25 pm
anyone doing Light Crusader? I think I might be interested.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: Mika22 on March 02, 2020, 05:29:44 am
Thanks, G.E.R., for submitted full maps of the Genesis versions of Earthworm Jim (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EarthwormJim) and its sequel (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EarthwormJim2), which I put up last night.  Surprised they haven't been mapped until now, and the first one checks another one off this list.

I guess I didn't mention yet: my brother got me a Sega Genesis Mini this past Christmas - though the only game I made time to play fully so far is Mega Man: The Wily Wars.  It was fun but I used it in this d-bal review (https://www.rippednatural.com/d-bal-review/) because I thought it will make it easier to understand the benefits of this bulking and bodybuilding supplement. I didn't think the three new Robot Masters were super great - but I guess they still have a legacy, because I more recently bought Sonic & Mega Man: Worlds Collide (as well as Worlds Unite, its sequel), a comic series involving Mega Man and Sonic's worlds, obviously, and (though I'm sure they showed up in the Mega Man comics earlier,) I like that the three new Robot Masters are collectively referred to as the "Genesis Unit".

You didn't think that the tree Robot Masters were great, wow I personally think that they are amazing plus the legacy that they have makes it more fun.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on June 03, 2020, 02:17:29 pm
G.E.R. has submitted the complete (I think) map for Light Crusader (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#LightCrusader)!  Yay!
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: G.E.R. on June 04, 2020, 02:41:39 am
I never played Light Crusader and don't knew what is this game about, but I saw that this map would be interesting here (for Genesis Mini map set and for two user requests). However, we can see a review of a game on Youtube. This map include all all rooms and locations from the game (I found it by usind a cheat code and level select menu).
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on January 16, 2021, 08:58:47 pm
We now have maps of Ecco The Dolphin (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EccoTheDolphin), thanks to Cleeem and Ecco the Dolphin Online (https://eccothedolphin.online/)!

Also thanks to them we have Ecco: The Tides Of Time (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EccoTidesOfTime) and Ecco Jr. (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#EccoJr) fully mapped now too!  While they're not included in the Sega Genesis Mini, they are still very welcome here on VGMaps.com!
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on January 31, 2021, 10:09:20 pm
G.E.R. submitted a number of maps today for various games, including the rest of Contra: Hard Corps (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#ContraHardCorps) and the only "map" of Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#DrRobotniksMeanBeanMachine).  I looked it up; apparently the playfield is a dungeon.  Weird.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: DarkWolf on March 03, 2021, 01:12:51 pm
I think that DarkWolf don't ripped this level, because it non-platformed level without objects. It includes only three small platform and enemies with a bombs or 200 JPY.

Yep, at the time I wasn't really good with generating maps from savestates or rom data.  I also made these before video recording was practical and it would have been hard to place everything accurately.

Out of curiosity, why is ToeJam & Earl marked with a dash? Does that mean incomplete? The maps uploaded should be all of the static maps possible in the game. If I remember correctly the randomized world, according to the devs, should actually be randomized and not just a random selection from a bank of possible maps. If that's the case, it's not really possible to make maps of the randomized game. It's has been a while though since I worked on this, and if someone has information otherwise, please let me know.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on June 04, 2022, 11:56:37 am
Haven't updated this list in over a year, but today, zagato blackfirst submitted a number of Genesis maps today for various games, including all of Altered Beast (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#AlteredBeast)!

Out of curiosity, why is ToeJam & Earl marked with a dash? Does that mean incomplete? The maps uploaded should be all of the static maps possible in the game. If I remember correctly the randomized world, according to the devs, should actually be randomized and not just a random selection from a bank of possible maps. If that's the case, it's not really possible to make maps of the randomized game. It's has been a while though since I worked on this, and if someone has information otherwise, please let me know.

I'm not supremely familiar with ToeJam & Earl, I suppose I could take a look at some YouTube videos when I get a chance.  If there's a bank of possible maps, then yes, it's mappable.  If it's totally random, then can some examples be shown (like with Dr. Mario (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/NES/index.htm#DrMario))?  Or would those randomized maps just look the same as, or too similar to, any Fixed World maps?
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on June 05, 2022, 05:20:47 pm

Sega announced the Mega Drive Mini 2 yesterday.  Wonder if it will come to North America as the Sega Genesis Mini 2.  Now includes Sega CD games.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: NicNamSam on June 08, 2022, 08:56:35 pm
I would love if someone could map Vectorman. If you're crazy and dumb enough to care about 100 percent completion for each level (me), then you need to find all the photons and TVs, and the levels can get a little complicated.
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on August 20, 2022, 10:29:11 am

The Genesis Mini 2's release date of October 27, 2022 as well as the full list of games were revealed yesterday.  If you don't want to watch the video, you can also see the full list on the official site (https://sega.jp/genesismini2/#titleList), or the full list including all regions on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Genesis_Mini#Sega_Genesis_Mini_2).

It's advertised as having "over 50 classic titles" but it sure looks like there are 60 games there (actually 61 with Space Harrier), including seven games listed as "BONUS!" on the official page.

The BONUS!es include:
- Devi & Pii (previously unreleased)
- Fantasy Zone (a newly developed port)
- Puyo Puyo Sun (a newly developed port)
- Space Harrier II (though originally a launch title, this version is enhanced, the first game is also included)
- Spatter (a newly developed port)
- Star Mobile (previously unreleased)
- Super Locomotive (a newly developed port)

Besides Genesis games, there are 12 Sega CD games, with Sewer Shark exclusive to North America and Europe, but the Japanese Mega Drive 2 has nine more Mega CD games (or ten? Not sure what the deal is with Romance Of The Three Kingdoms III being listed for both the Mega Drive and the Mega CD), including two Lunar games!

All in all, there are 38 games (39 including Space Harrier) that appear on both the Western and Japanese versions.  The West additionally has 22 exclusives and Japan has 23 exclusives (I guess that means they have one more game), so there is a pool of 83 games (84 including Space Harrier).

I don't know if it would be worth adding them to the list on the front page because I don't know if there's much interest... the first Genesis Mini hasn't been fully mapped yet...
Title: Re: Sega Genesis Mini - full map set
Post by: JonLeung on November 23, 2022, 09:43:09 pm
I would love if someone could map Vectorman. If you're crazy and dumb enough to care about 100 percent completion for each level (me), then you need to find all the photons and TVs, and the levels can get a little complicated.

Well, you're in luck, NicNamSam.  John Brain has mapped out Vectorman (https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/Genesis/index.htm#Vectorman).  It's nice to be able to update this topic again...

Thanks, John Brain!